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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://melissa-brandon.com/2010/03/09/screw-the-economy-how-are-you-doing/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is just awesome, Troy.  I am planning on, and have been since I was a child, to go the 100% down route.  

I don&#039;t want to make more of it that it is, but I do think that it is bad advice to tell the lady to stop tithing, even though it seems rational.  You see, that is the exact moment that I would tell her to continue tithing.  And at that moment every Christian that surrounds her should lift her up and to help her with her needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is just awesome, Troy.  I am planning on, and have been since I was a child, to go the 100% down route.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to make more of it that it is, but I do think that it is bad advice to tell the lady to stop tithing, even though it seems rational.  You see, that is the exact moment that I would tell her to continue tithing.  And at that moment every Christian that surrounds her should lift her up and to help her with her needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy L. Allen, Sr.</title>
		<link>http://melissa-brandon.com/2010/03/09/screw-the-economy-how-are-you-doing/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy L. Allen, Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon,

Great post. But your comment about Dave Ramsey and tithing is incorrect. He teaches and preaches about tithing all the time. But you must understand that although he sees what he does as a financial ministry, he is not always talking to Christians. 

When he does discuss tithing, he does say it is always 10% off of the top. He also teaches, unlike many others, that tithing is not giving the money to God -- God does not need your money. God wants you to have a spirit of giving, and give towards his great works by man here on earth. When you show God that you are a good steward of money, he will bless you with more.

The only time I have heard Dave tell someone to TEMPORARILY stop tithing was when a single mother could not pay the rent/food/electric. I have been following Dave for over a decade, and I listen to his show everyday via podcast. He is very consistent in his teachings about tithing. If you are interested, I am sure I could find a sound clip on his website about the subject.

Regarding the actual subject of your post: Dave teaches that you should put no less than a 20% down payment on a home, and your total payment should be NO MORE than 25% of your take-home pay on a FIFTEEN YEAR mortgage. 

If you do the math on that, you will be more in the range of buying a house that is 1 to 2 years annual salary (not the ridiculous 5-10x that the mortgage lenders approve people for even TODAY).

It also ensures that your home is a blessing in terms of how much you spend on it monthly. If you spend more than 25% of your take home pay, it becomes a burden.

Good luck in your hunt -- and if you REALLY want to be unique, you could do the &quot;100% Down Plan&quot;. Because remember, ALL foreclosed homes have a MORTGAGE on them. (grin)

Best Regards,
Troy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon,</p>
<p>Great post. But your comment about Dave Ramsey and tithing is incorrect. He teaches and preaches about tithing all the time. But you must understand that although he sees what he does as a financial ministry, he is not always talking to Christians. </p>
<p>When he does discuss tithing, he does say it is always 10% off of the top. He also teaches, unlike many others, that tithing is not giving the money to God &#8212; God does not need your money. God wants you to have a spirit of giving, and give towards his great works by man here on earth. When you show God that you are a good steward of money, he will bless you with more.</p>
<p>The only time I have heard Dave tell someone to TEMPORARILY stop tithing was when a single mother could not pay the rent/food/electric. I have been following Dave for over a decade, and I listen to his show everyday via podcast. He is very consistent in his teachings about tithing. If you are interested, I am sure I could find a sound clip on his website about the subject.</p>
<p>Regarding the actual subject of your post: Dave teaches that you should put no less than a 20% down payment on a home, and your total payment should be NO MORE than 25% of your take-home pay on a FIFTEEN YEAR mortgage. </p>
<p>If you do the math on that, you will be more in the range of buying a house that is 1 to 2 years annual salary (not the ridiculous 5-10x that the mortgage lenders approve people for even TODAY).</p>
<p>It also ensures that your home is a blessing in terms of how much you spend on it monthly. If you spend more than 25% of your take home pay, it becomes a burden.</p>
<p>Good luck in your hunt &#8212; and if you REALLY want to be unique, you could do the &#8220;100% Down Plan&#8221;. Because remember, ALL foreclosed homes have a MORTGAGE on them. (grin)</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Troy</p>
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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://melissa-brandon.com/2010/03/09/screw-the-economy-how-are-you-doing/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I appreciate your response.  My frustration isn&#039;t with the interest rate (5%), but with the fact that we as a society find it so acceptable to take on so much debt as well as pay so much interest.  Even at 2% (which, as far as I have seen, does not exist) you are still looking at paying $75k in interest on a $180k loan.  How is that at all acceptable?

I have looked at Dave Ramsey.  He looks ok, but for the most part it is common sense (or, should be).  One part that I take issue with is that he councels Christians, and as a part of that he doesn&#039;t immediately instruct them to start tithing.

Too often we say &quot;I don&#039;t have enough to give 10%&quot;.  Maybe you don&#039;t have enough because you don&#039;t give.  Our God is the God that created all things.  Can we really not give out thanks to Him and trust that He will take care of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I appreciate your response.  My frustration isn&#8217;t with the interest rate (5%), but with the fact that we as a society find it so acceptable to take on so much debt as well as pay so much interest.  Even at 2% (which, as far as I have seen, does not exist) you are still looking at paying $75k in interest on a $180k loan.  How is that at all acceptable?</p>
<p>I have looked at Dave Ramsey.  He looks ok, but for the most part it is common sense (or, should be).  One part that I take issue with is that he councels Christians, and as a part of that he doesn&#8217;t immediately instruct them to start tithing.</p>
<p>Too often we say &#8220;I don&#8217;t have enough to give 10%&#8221;.  Maybe you don&#8217;t have enough because you don&#8217;t give.  Our God is the God that created all things.  Can we really not give out thanks to Him and trust that He will take care of us?</p>
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		<title>By: AaronG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proverbs 24:27

    &quot;Prepare your outside work, make it fit for yourself in the field; and afterward build your house.&quot; 

Make sure you have enough saved to get you through tough times, job loss, etc... (3 to 6 months income)


Matthew 10:16

    &quot;Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.&quot; 

Get the best rate possible, seek counsel if you are unsure. 
As an example your mortgage payment should NOT be more then 35% of your monthly income. 
So using your example your net income should be $42,200 per year minimum.
Personally I would like to see you put down more so you don&#039;t have to pay the 78 months of PMI and you could probably lower your interest rate.

Proverbs 10:22

    &quot;The blessings of the Lord makes one rich, and He adds no sorrow with it.&quot; 

Proverbs 14:29

    &quot;He who is impulsive exalts folly.&quot; 

Proverbs 1:5

    &quot;A wise man will hear and increase in learning, and a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel.&quot; 

If you find this helpful you might want to attend a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proverbs 24:27</p>
<p>    &#8220;Prepare your outside work, make it fit for yourself in the field; and afterward build your house.&#8221; </p>
<p>Make sure you have enough saved to get you through tough times, job loss, etc&#8230; (3 to 6 months income)</p>
<p>Matthew 10:16</p>
<p>    &#8220;Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.&#8221; </p>
<p>Get the best rate possible, seek counsel if you are unsure.<br />
As an example your mortgage payment should NOT be more then 35% of your monthly income.<br />
So using your example your net income should be $42,200 per year minimum.<br />
Personally I would like to see you put down more so you don&#8217;t have to pay the 78 months of PMI and you could probably lower your interest rate.</p>
<p>Proverbs 10:22</p>
<p>    &#8220;The blessings of the Lord makes one rich, and He adds no sorrow with it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Proverbs 14:29</p>
<p>    &#8220;He who is impulsive exalts folly.&#8221; </p>
<p>Proverbs 1:5</p>
<p>    &#8220;A wise man will hear and increase in learning, and a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel.&#8221; </p>
<p>If you find this helpful you might want to attend a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University class.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put cousin!  This world has indeed strayed down a path that is not ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put cousin!  This world has indeed strayed down a path that is not ideal.</p>
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